Best SSD for music

1 minute ago, sandyk said:

 

That is with your ears and your System. It does NOT mean that others are unable to hear these differences.

 Have you even tried using a low noise +5V supply to power them like many other members have ?

How are any potential differences going to get past my Optical Rendu?

7 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said:

 

How are any potential differences going to get past my Optical Rendu?

 Yeah, I know, another person that doesn't believe that the quality of the front end matters just as long as the 1s and 0s spew out in the correct sequence.

 I am wasting my time discussing this further with you, so I won't bother further replying to you.

29 minutes ago, sandyk said:

Try making statement like that in Rajiv's massive thread .

That I didn't hear a difference between two different SSDs?

29 minutes ago, sandyk said:

Try making statement like that in Rajiv's massive thread .

That I didn't hear a difference between two different SSDs?

29 minutes ago, sandyk said:

Try making statement like that in Rajiv's massive thread .

That I didn't hear a difference between two different SSDs?

Sandy, I think the point is - we all have different experiences and base our purchases on that limited information and progress from there. So while some people hear a difference across storage, some don't. There is no right and wrong and that's just fine. 

12 hours ago, sandyk said:

 Try making statement like that in Rajiv's massive thread .

Yes, that thread is a great resource for finding others who share one's own beliefs and for avoiding the hard work of actually trying to determine for yourself what actually matters and what doesn't.

6 hours ago, kumakuma said:

 

Yes, that thread is a great resource for finding others who share one's own beliefs and for avoiding the hard work of actually trying to determine for yourself what actually matters and what doesn't.

These guys ARE determining for themselves what actually matters and what doesn't ,by trying these things for themselves instead of blindly following the ASR Measurement regime's more often than not, incorrect conclusions based on inadequate measurements, like a flock of sheep.

15 hours ago, wouterk said:

Glad I went for the external Samsung SSD. 

Stating the obvious here:

quieter than mechanical disk

much faster, so less CPU load

Any sonic difference: up for debate, but I am happy with the performance. 

 To get the best out of an external SSD , ideally you should also power it by an external  good quality low noise power supply.

 The same applies to both external HDDs and CD/DVD/BR writers.

In the case of using an external writer for ripping CDs, some have found that the device runs quieter , with fewer CDs needing re-ripping due to errors.

13 minutes ago, sandyk said:

 

These guys ARE determining for themselves what actually matters and what doesn't ,by trying these things for themselves instead of blindly following the ASR Measurement regime's more often than not, incorrect conclusions based on inadequate measurements, like a flock of sheep.

What is ASR Measurement?

@sandyk I am not now, nor have I ever been a member of ASR. Furthermore, I have never even visited the site. What I do have is a well tuned bullshit detector and a healthy dose of skepticism without facts which you are very short on.

3 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said:

@sandyk I am not now, nor have I ever been a member of ASR. Furthermore, I have never even visited the site. What I do have is a well tuned bullshit detector and a healthy dose of skepticism without facts which you are very short on.

 Perhaps your Bullshit detector needs recalibrating ? 😛

 In case you didn't notice, my reply about ASR was not directed at you, it was directed at Tom, who if I said something was Black, would insist that it was White on principle.

25 minutes ago, sandyk said:

In case you didn't notice, my reply about ASR was not directed at you, it was directed at Tom, who if I said something was Black, would insist that it was White on principle.

And you stomp off like a sullen child when challenged so I guess we've both got issues...

3 hours ago, sandyk said:

 To get the best out of an external SSD , ideally you should also power it by an external  good quality low noise power supply.

 The same applies to both external HDDs and CD/DVD/BR writers.

In the case of using an external writer for ripping CDs, some have found that the device runs quieter , with fewer CDs needing re-ripping due to errors.

SandyK, you must have 2 personalities. A day ago when I said a separate LPSU for an SSD gains sonically you said, "Not necessarily. It's best to share a COMMON Earth reference point. Doing this may result in a minor earth loop problem. Now you are for an external LPSU?

1 hour ago, sb6 said:

SandyK, you must have 2 personalities. A day ago when I said a separate LPSU for an SSD gains sonically you said, "Not necessarily. It's best to share a COMMON Earth reference point. Doing this may result in a minor earth loop problem. Now you are for an external LPSU?

 No. In this case the SSD is EXTERNAL, NOT internal.

It's no different to using an external low noise PSU to power a Regen for example. Even then you may notice a very small degradation due to capacitance to Mains earth in the Linear PSU . Even connecting the screen of an R-Core transformer in the Linear PSU can do this.A Battery derived supply is better in this respect for USB power.

 That's why for lowest noise you should use a transformer with a split bobbin which has less capacitance between Primary and Secondary sides. An R-Core transformer is however better in this respect than a Toroidal transformer

 I have verified this by fitting a toggle switch on the back of a Linear PSU for USB with an R-Core transformer ,that can switch between earthing the screen and not earthing the screen.

 If the devices are internal it's best to use the main 0 volts of the internal PSU for best results , although you may still get good results with careful attention to the external earthing arrangements, such as the PC mains plug and the LPSU mains plug being plugged into the same power point or adjoining sockets in the Power Board.

 In the case of a PC using a 3 pin mains plug you can also get a minor earth loop with many USB devices, (even USB memory) which have 0 volts and the Shield connected internally. The shield of the USB socket in this case is likely to be connected to the metalwork of the PC, and the 0 Volts ("Earth")  of the USB +5V supply is connected via the cabling DIRECTLY to the main 0 volts of the internal SMPS .

4 hours ago, sandyk said:

 To get the best out of an external SSD , ideally you should also power it by an external  good quality low noise power supply.

 The same applies to both external HDDs and CD/DVD/BR writers.

In the case of using an external writer for ripping CDs, some have found that the device runs quieter , with fewer CDs needing re-ripping due to errors.

IDK I just use my MacBook Pro with an external USB-C CD reader and the rips from XLD are just perfect. I rip direct to NAS. Works just great. 

I am going to get an external linear PSU for my coffee maker...  See how that goes.

Why have one box, when you can have 15!!!!

1 hour ago, jabbr said:

IDK I just use my MacBook Pro with an external USB-C CD reader and the rips from XLD are just perfect. I rip direct to NAS. Works just great. 

Yeah. Then you need to send them via an expensive (to others) Gigabit speed Optical network to try and get rid of all the RF/EMI  for acceptable Audio quality

30 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said:

I am going to get an external linear PSU for my coffee maker...  See how that goes.

 

Why have one box, when you can have 15!!!!

 In my case I don't normally have any external Linear PSUs , other than when I play around with flawed USB Audio that even Jabbr has abandoned for an expensive Optical Network . 

 I leave the multiple Linear PSUs to the guys in Rajiv's massive thread .

I further improve my PC's internal +12V supply for a very low noise regulated +5V (<4uV noise )  supply for my 2 internal SSDs using a small internal additional PCB with 2 separate isolated +5V outputs.

So optical is okay now?  Did you forget about this from earlier today?

1 hour ago, sandyk said:

 No. In this case the SSD is EXTERNAL, NOT internal.

It's no different to using an external low noise PSU to power a Regen for example. Even then you may notice a very small degradation due to capacitance to Mains earth in the Linear PSU . Even connecting the screen of an R-Core transformer in the Linear PSU can do this.A Battery derived supply is better in this respect for USB power.

 That's why for lowest noise you should use a transformer with a split bobbin which has less capacitance between Primary and Secondary sides. An R-Core transformer is however better in this respect than a Toroidal transformer

 I have verified this by fitting a toggle switch on the back of a Linear PSU for USB with an R-Core transformer ,that can switch between earthing the screen and not earthing the screen.

 If the devices are internal it's best to use the main 0 volts of the internal PSU for best results , although you may still get good results with careful attention to the external earthing arrangements, such as the PC mains plug and the LPSU mains plug being plugged into the same power point or adjoining sockets in the Power Board.

 In the case of a PC using a 3 pin mains plug you can also get a minor earth loop with many USB devices, (even USB memory) which have 0 volts and the Shield connected internally. The shield of the USB socket in this case is likely to be connected to the metalwork of the PC, and the 0 Volts ("Earth")  of the USB +5V supply is connected via the cabling DIRECTLY to the main 0 volts of the internal SMPS .

Thanks for the detailed explanation.

On 5/14/2020 at 12:10 AM, sandyk said:

 

That is with your ears and your System. It does NOT mean that others are unable to hear these differences.

 Have you even tried using a low noise +5V supply to power them like many other members have ?

Are you denying what someone else hears or doesn’t?

On 5/14/2020 at 12:10 AM, sandyk said:

 Try making statement like that in Rajiv's massive thread .

The rules of that thread are explicit in that only post which agree with the current flow are permitted. They don’t want posts which disagree. They don’t want to argue, just have fun.