New NAS or Storage For My Music

I should mention that ECC memory is recommended with a ZFS NAS.

Yes, good point @jabbr There is a good thread on the Level1techs forum that has some examples of things going bad when ZFS was used without ECC RAM. If I could find it I would link it. 45Homelabs sells more RAM as well you're not stuck buying the machine with 8GB of RAM.

On 5/1/2024 at 4:23 PM, AudioDoctor said:

This weekend I will be tackling my project of getting Minimserver running in a docker container on TrueNAS Scale. The developer of Minimserver has offered to help if I need it.

Would the following have not worked for you?

minimworld/minimserver - Docker Image | Docker Hub

56 minutes ago, kennyb123 said:

Would the following have not worked for you?

 

minimworld/minimserver - Docker Image | Docker Hub

I did not know this existed until just now when I clicked the link. I did not know what a docker was until maybe a week ago, and I still have not had time to sit down and get it running on TrueNAS Scale.

a quick glance and it looks like the link youi provided, and this link below are referencing the same things so it looks like it should work.

https://www.truenas.com/docs/scale/22.12/scaletutorials/apps/docker/

7 hours ago, AudioDoctor said:

I did not know what a docker was until maybe a week ago, and I still have not had time to sit down and get it running on TrueNAS Scale.

That tutorial you linked to makes things look difficult. Hopefully that's not the case.  

Getting Docker running on my Synology NAS was easy.  Not too difficult either to spin up containers.  Hopefully it's just as easy with TrueNAS.

Also, on Synology, Docker isn’t required for MinimServer.  There’s a package available that can easily be installed.  Hopefully TrueNAS will gain something similar.

I just saw this thread, but I backed UGREEN's foray into the NAS space (it just funded today).

UGREEN NASync Series: Your Private Cloud Storage Solution. by UGREEN — Kickstarter

Their own NAS software stack is early days, but the hardware seems very solid according to the bulk of early reviews.

On the backer Facebook group, UGREEN committed to allowing people to install competing NAS software (despite initial reports that they had intentions to block that ability on a UEFI / BIOS level), though they made the usual caveats about not being supported and warranty coverage would be indeterminate should users opt to use different software.

Even so, impressive value for money on the hardware at the Kickstarter price.

On 5/10/2024 at 8:21 PM, Jeremy Anderson said:

I just saw this thread, but I backed UGREEN's foray into the NAS space (it just funded today).

UGREEN NASync Series: Your Private Cloud Storage Solution. by UGREEN — Kickstarter

They rather overshot their goal!

1 hour ago, Dan Gravell said:

 

They rather overshot their goal!

WOW!

I’m trying to figure out what’s different about ugreen versus all the other NAS manufacturers, and I can’t find any distinguishing features. 
 

I don’t have time to watch 25 videos on the campaign page. Wish they would just write something. 

1 hour ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

WOW!

 

I’m trying to figure out what’s different about ugreen versus all the other NAS manufacturers, and I can’t find any distinguishing features. 
 

I don’t have time to watch 25 videos on the campaign page. Wish they would just write something. 

You can go here and just scroll a lot instead:

UGREEN NAS ｜ NASync Series

Mostly it's about hardware value for money for those who want to bring their own OS to the table (since UGREEN's isn't mature yet).

23 minutes ago, Jeremy Anderson said:

You can go here and just scroll a lot instead:

UGREEN NAS ｜ NASync Series

Mostly it's about hardware value for money for those who want to bring their own OS to the table (since UGREEN's isn't mature yet).

Ah, thank you. 
 

Which OS do people use on these, that offers NAS features?

UGREEN (as they are branded) make loads of electronic consumables. I recently purchased a UGREEN bluetooth -> aux receiver for my car.

I really like the price of the ugreen NAS units. I may reach out to the company to see if I can demo one and write about it. 

1 hour ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Ah, thank you. 
 

Which OS do people use on these, that offers NAS features?

Imho, TrueNas or Unraid (using this since 8 years) are the best bet, however every solution may demand a learning curve

Just now, DuckToller said:

Imho, TrueNas or Unraid (using this since 8 years) are the best bet, however every solution may demand a learning curve

The ugreen NAS units support both of these operating systems?

8 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

The ugreen NAS units support both of these operating systems?

Honestly, I did not check if the open OS choice is limited to specific OS'es, however UNRAID is Linux & runs from an USB stick - thus it is HW independend.

Here are the TrueNas minumum requirements: 

1 minute ago, DuckToller said:

Honestly, I did not check if the open OS choice is limited to specific OS'es, however UNRAID is Linux & runs from an USB stick as thus it is HW independend.

Here are the TrueNas minumum requirements: 

Processor	Memory	Boot Device	Storage
2-Core Intel 64-Bit or AMD x86_64 processor	8 GB memory	16 GB SSD boot device	Two identically-sized devices for a single storage pool

I know TrueNAS has very specific recommendations for which hardware it should be installed on. The CPU architecture is only one peice. 

6 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

I know TrueNAS has very specific recommendations for which hardware it should be installed on. The CPU architecture is only one peice. 

I may have a point using UNRAID , then ;-)
The 4 year old server runs on Gigabyte C240M - 16GB RAM - Pentium Gold

On 5/10/2024 at 3:49 AM, kennyb123 said:

Also, on Synology, Docker isn’t required for MinimServer.  There’s a package available that can easily be installed.  Hopefully TrueNAS will gain something similar.

I am just now considering a NAS with Minimserver. What's a good inexpensive one with easily removable drive(s) that will run Minimserver?

Any Synolgy Nas runs Miniimserver. As they all use the same software, you can choose depending on other requirements: price, nbr. of bays, lan speed, …

e.g. Synology DiskStation DS223 has good reviews.

NASCompares and associated NAS blogs have some thoughts about the UGREEN device: https://nascompares.com/2024/05/03/the-ugreen-nas-range-1-month-later-should-you-back-it-or-bail-on-it/

On 4/26/2024 at 4:24 PM, The Computer Audiophile said:

The main companies I'm looking at are QNAP, Synology, and TrueNAS.

If you have everything on a QNAP machine already, I strongly recommend to stay with the same manufacturer, same OS and sufficient number of bays. Migration from QNAP to QNAP is so easy and all RAID stuff, parameters and users will be transferred by simply swapping all the drives.

Which CPU version of the TVS-872XT do you have? Maybe it is worth having that one fixed. 

2 minutes ago, Arindal said:

 

If you have everything on a QNAP machine already, I strongly recommend to stay with the same manufacturer, same OS and sufficient number of bays. Migration from QNAP to QNAP is so easy and all RAID stuff, parameters and users will be transferred by simply swapping all the drives.

 

Which CPU version of the TVS-872XT do you have? Maybe it is worth having that one fixed. 

I'm with you, the migration from QNAP to QNAP is a breeze. 

My QNAP has the i5-8400T and 16GB of RAM. 

40 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

My QNAP has the i5-8400T and 16GB of RAM. 

Honestly, it is the best machine you can get in this class. Would have either this one fixed or replace it with the very same model.

Do you run standard QTS or hero on that one? If the latter is the case, it is not as easy to migrate to a consumer-grade QNAP. 

6 minutes ago, Arindal said:

 

Honestly, it is the best machine you can get in this class. Would have either this one fixed or replace it with the very same model.

 

Do you run standard QTS or hero on that one? If the latter is the case, it is not as easy to migrate to a consumer-grade QNAP. 

Hero of course :~)

On 5/9/2024 at 6:42 PM, kennyb123 said:

Would the following have not worked for you?

 

minimworld/minimserver - Docker Image | Docker Hub

Is this website still available for you? I can't get it to come up and was going to dig into this for a few hours today.