Afveep Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 I have had Synology NAS products for many years serving solely as my music library. They have always been remote to my music room. A recent move and resulting change in my listening room dictates that I need my NAS in the music room, connected to my audio system switch. As I result, I'm looking for a dead-quiet NAS. I've come across the QNAP HS-453DX, which is fanless, can accept SSD drives of course , and has a nice form factor. Did a search here and looks like there were some positive comments but they are quite a few years old. While seemingly perfect, the HS-453DX is a bit pricey. Does anyone have any other recommendations? Also interested in recent experience with the HS-453DX if I decide to go that way. I need 4TB, expandable; RAID. Storing music files only and able to run Minimserver. Pretty simple. Thanks for any feedback. Tidal Audio Agoria Loudspeakers; VAC Master preamp; Merrill Audio Christine preamp, Merrill Audio Jens & VAC Renaissance Phono Preamps; Bricasti M28 & Merrill Audio Element 118 Monoblock Amplifiers; Sonore Signature RenduSE Optical network player; Bricasti M12 Source Controller/ DAC; Spiral Groove SG-2 TT with Centroid Arm & Transfiguration Proteus Diamond Cartridge; Ampex ATR-102 Reel-Reel with Merrill Audio Master tape head preamplifier; Ansuz signal and power cabling and power distribution; Symposium Isis racks INDUSTRY AFFILIATION: Dealer- XtremeFidelity.net (VAC, Bricasti, Merrill Audio, Sonore, Ansuz, Synergistic Research & others) Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 I’ve used the ts-i410x before. Really nice. https://www.qnap.com/en-us/product/ts-i410x Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Afveep Posted June 28 Author Share Posted June 28 52 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: I’ve used the ts-i410x before. Really nice. https://www.qnap.com/en-us/product/ts-i410x The ts-i410x looks nice and would work well most likely, but it is also a bit pricey. Oddly, in just the last few hours since I've been researching, the HS-453DX is "currently unavailable" at both Amazon & B&H. Wonder if it's now discontinued? I did another search and came up with a QNAP HS-264-8G, a 2 bay version I think. This looks similar enough and is selling for $589.00. https://store.qnap.com/hs-264-8g-us.html. This might do the trick as I can use Raid 1; I also do occasional multiple USB backup drives. Having been an exclusive Synology user, how do I migrate the data from Synology to QNAP? Are they compatible? Tidal Audio Agoria Loudspeakers; VAC Master preamp; Merrill Audio Christine preamp, Merrill Audio Jens & VAC Renaissance Phono Preamps; Bricasti M28 & Merrill Audio Element 118 Monoblock Amplifiers; Sonore Signature RenduSE Optical network player; Bricasti M12 Source Controller/ DAC; Spiral Groove SG-2 TT with Centroid Arm & Transfiguration Proteus Diamond Cartridge; Ampex ATR-102 Reel-Reel with Merrill Audio Master tape head preamplifier; Ansuz signal and power cabling and power distribution; Symposium Isis racks INDUSTRY AFFILIATION: Dealer- XtremeFidelity.net (VAC, Bricasti, Merrill Audio, Sonore, Ansuz, Synergistic Research & others) Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 2 hours ago, Afveep said: how do I migrate the data from Synology to QNAP Just copy and paste. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
agisthos Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 You could replace the fan in the NAS with a Noctua or Blacknoise eLoop low noise fan. I have done this for almost 10 years of using NAS's in my listening room. You lose about 50% of the air output but reduce fan noise by 90% so its a worthwhile tradeoff. In a summer or hot room your drives will run hotter, and potential lifecycle will be reduced, so that must be accounted for. There are PC fans out there that only have 6-7db of noise, but still push a fair amount of air to cool things. Whisper quiet. The normal fan found in a NAS is a cheap type that is 25-30db or even louder. Link to comment
firedog Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 10 hours ago, agisthos said: You could replace the fan in the NAS with a Noctua or Blacknoise eLoop low noise fan. I have done this for almost 10 years of using NAS's in my listening room. You lose about 50% of the air output but reduce fan noise by 90% so its a worthwhile tradeoff. In a summer or hot room your drives will run hotter, and potential lifecycle will be reduced, so that must be accounted for. There are PC fans out there that only have 6-7db of noise, but still push a fair amount of air to cool things. Whisper quiet. The normal fan found in a NAS is a cheap type that is 25-30db or even louder. Yep. I replaced a fanless server with one with such front and back (intake and outtake) low noise fans. It’s a very quiet, not noiseless, server. The fan noise isn’t perceptible unless you are right next to the server in a quiet environment. The server runs much cooler than the fanless one, which is a plus for several reasons. It also has minimal dust buildup, as the outtake fan pulls most of the dust that comes in - out. I don’t see any reason to go back to a fanless unit. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protectors +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Protection>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three BXT (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Edifer M1380 system. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Arindal Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 On 6/29/2024 at 12:48 AM, Afveep said: I did another search and came up with a QNAP HS-264-8G, a 2 bay version I think. I have quite some experience with 3 different silent NAS models by Qnap: HS-453DX, HS-264 and TS-410e. If you plan to run mainly Minimserver on it, all the 3 variants would pretty much do the job. Main differences are CPU power, connectivity and number/size of bays. HS-453DX has an outdated and less powerful CPU so consider running roon on it with a big library or Plex with broad video streams or doing simultaneous surveillance tasks later might challenge this one. HS-264 and TS-410e are equally powerful and if you are fine with 2 SSD bars (4 or 8TB each) running in RAID1, I would go for the more affordable HS264. Do not see any point in having a fan, CPU and SSD temperature stay pretty much on the healthy side. The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to comment
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