One and a half Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 While we wait for EtherRegen Mark II to arrive, similar in concept is the ifi LAN iPurifier Pro (was expecting extreme or pro plus, perhaps too old buzzwords now). Here an Ethernet stream is de-jittered, optically isolated with FMC converters and regenerated. Connections are input/output RJ45 and a USB-C connector for power. The front has LED bars for operational and power states, the communication device layout from the film 'Close Encounters of the third kind' is a strong resemblance! Connection Detail For now: Server -> JCAT XE -> Netgear GS105 (Generic SMPS noisy PSU) -> Netgear Port 5 Cat 6 > iPurifier in > iPurifier out > DXPLUS filter > 25m Cat5e > DX Plus filter > EtherRegen (Mark 1) > ER output to Lumin U1 Essentially two levels of isolation in series. Sound Quality Tonally - No change Extraction of minute details - Not noticeable. A linear power supply for the switch can extract more details, witing for a 120V 12V 5A PSU to arrive (Aliexpress job). Image left to right - Still the same Image height - A little more about a foot above the speakers Vocals and instruments - This is exceptional. What happens is that main vocals are in the centre, contained in a 'focused bubble', any BV are spread between centre and the left and right speakers. Bass defies directionality, drums behind vocals. Any additional instruments are contained in their own bubble with uncanny 3D placement. Classical music is a good test for identifying individual instruments, easily. I like this device. Still in the burning in phase, these are the results after 48 hours. Don't place the iPurifier on a warm/hot surface like in the photo. it will shutdown with excessive temperatures. NaimYourTubes 1 AS Profile Equipment List Say NO to MQA Link to comment
One and a half Posted September 16 Author Share Posted September 16 After a week or so, the image instead of being bubbles are now spreading out from the centre and filling in left to right speaker from centre. For vocals, they are a little wider, but not so huge, like an 8' piano. I'm quite amazed how objects in the Ethernet chain can improve SQ, such tweakery is a little cheaper than wholesale changes like a new DAC but are very noticeable. Ordered two 120V/12V 5A linear supply due at the end of the month for the Netgear switch and main router which have already proved that another level of grunge is disappearing. NaimYourTubes 1 AS Profile Equipment List Say NO to MQA Link to comment
audiobomber Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 On 9/10/2024 at 9:47 PM, One and a half said: Netgear Port 5 Cat 6 > iPurifier in > iPurifier out > DXPLUS filter > 25m Cat5e > DX Plus filter > EtherRegen (Mark 1) I assume the CAT5e is run through the walls? You could also try: Netgear switch > DXPLUS > 25m Cat5e > DX Plus filter > LAN iPurifier > EtherRegen Main System: QNAP TS-451+ > Silent Angel Bonn N8 > Sonore opticalModule Deluxe v2 > Corning SMF with Finisar FTLF1318P3BTL SFPs > Uptone EtherREGEN > exaSound PlayPoint and e32 Mk-II DAC > Meitner MTR-101 Plus monoblocks > Bamberg S5-MTM sealed standmount speakers. Crown XLi 1500 powering AV123 Rocket UFW10 stereo subwoofers. Upgraded power on all switches, renderer and DAC. Furutech and Audio Sensibility ethernet cables, Cardas Neutral Ref analogue cables. iFi Audio AC iPurifer, iFi Supanova, Furman PF-15i & PST-8, power conditioners. Link to comment
firedog Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 So if I understand correctly, this device gives you the benefit (assuming it exists) of having your streamer/DAC on a fiber optic home LAN, even though you don't have a Fiber based router/playback device? Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protectors +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Protection>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three BXT (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Edifer M1380 system. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Boulder Bob Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 Does the unit come shipped with a power supply? It looks like it needs 5V DC. What's with the USB C connector? How would one connect a "conventional" LPS? Link to comment
audiobomber Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 13 minutes ago, firedog said: So if I understand correctly, this device gives you the benefit (assuming it exists) of having your streamer/DAC on a fiber optic home LAN, even though you don't have a Fiber based router/playback device? Yes, it is a self-contained LAN to fiber optic to LAN device. It surely won't compete with a pricier stand-alone fiber optic system, but it's a great idea if you can't implement a regular fiber system. 10 minutes ago, Boulder Bob said: Does the unit come shipped with a power supply? It looks like it needs 5V DC. What's with the USB C connector? How would one connect a "conventional" LPS? What's in the box? 1 x LAN iPurifier ProEthernet Cable (0.5m) 1 xUSB-A to USB-C Cable (1.2m) 1 x USB Power Adapter (5V) 1 x Quick Start Card 1 x Instruction Card https://www.silentpower.tech/products/lan-ipurifier-pro?srsltid=AfmBOoqs-X4k7VX3hh6UwcAnCMkl4Pcn1AbFi85f8MzTdFfJFhZvC9ps The supplied power supply is very basic, there is certainly room for improvement. There are generic DC to USB 3.0 cables available. I expect Ghent Audio could make up a higher quality version. Main System: QNAP TS-451+ > Silent Angel Bonn N8 > Sonore opticalModule Deluxe v2 > Corning SMF with Finisar FTLF1318P3BTL SFPs > Uptone EtherREGEN > exaSound PlayPoint and e32 Mk-II DAC > Meitner MTR-101 Plus monoblocks > Bamberg S5-MTM sealed standmount speakers. Crown XLi 1500 powering AV123 Rocket UFW10 stereo subwoofers. Upgraded power on all switches, renderer and DAC. Furutech and Audio Sensibility ethernet cables, Cardas Neutral Ref analogue cables. iFi Audio AC iPurifer, iFi Supanova, Furman PF-15i & PST-8, power conditioners. Link to comment
One and a half Posted September 18 Author Share Posted September 18 On 9/16/2024 at 11:49 PM, Boulder Bob said: Does the unit come shipped with a power supply? It looks like it needs 5V DC. What's with the USB C connector? How would one connect a "conventional" LPS? Here is the supplied power adapter, it's something bundled with a mobile phone. A USB3 connector from a computer is just as good. I suppose if the power is cleaned enough, the raw input may not matter much. The AC connector should match the country location. AS Profile Equipment List Say NO to MQA Link to comment
One and a half Posted September 18 Author Share Posted September 18 On 9/16/2024 at 10:30 PM, audiobomber said: I assume the CAT5e is run through the walls? You could also try: Netgear switch > DXPLUS > 25m Cat5e > DX Plus filter > LAN iPurifier > EtherRegen Good suggestion, that's next, just waiting arrival of boutique Ethernet cables. I do have a JCAT power supply, but the connectors are wrong trpe, JCAT have the 5.5mm/2/1mm barrel, the IPurifier USB-C, Alternatively, there's a 5V USB A on a TIANCOOLKEI Power supply which is from a linear supply which is close by, AS Profile Equipment List Say NO to MQA Link to comment
Popular Post One and a half Posted September 28 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 28 On 9/16/2024 at 10:30 PM, audiobomber said: I assume the CAT5e is run through the walls? You could also try: Netgear switch > DXPLUS > 25m Cat5e > DX Plus filter > LAN iPurifier > EtherRegen This is now completed, with the TIANCOOLKEI LPS 5V USB A to USB-C cable (the cable that came with the ifi, it looks very generic). The cables from the iPurifier Pro are "Nordost ODIN Ethernet Cable Cat8 Speed Lan Cable RJ45 Network Patch With High Purity Silver Plated Conductor" (what a mouthful, and most likely OEM version of a boxed Nordost) and generic CAT8 Lindy cables. The Cat 8's feed the iPurifier and and Sangean radio. A second "Nordost Ethernet" feeds the Lumin U1. Sound wise another level of grunge is gone, many factors at play here, short cable runs (0.5m), LPS and the silver Ethernet cables. Easy to listen to, brought out some micro details, still some more to go on that front, but pleased with the presentation so far. NaimYourTubes and audiobomber 2 AS Profile Equipment List Say NO to MQA Link to comment
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