Article: A Little Immersive Audio For Everybody - Genius, Lizzy, Ziggy, and More

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Update: If you want the Thin Lizzy Atmos, it's now only available in the 1976 boxed set for around $75-90. Still well worth the price.

https://shop.thinlizzyofficial.com/collections/1976/products/1976-5cd-bluray-boxset

Watched the whole Ken Scott & Emre Ramazanoglu video. Thanks for posting. Most engaging, educational, informative. I can see why you recommended it as suitable viewing for all.

I was just thinking about a synoptic thought/remark - whilst struck that it is fortunate for Atmos listeners that Ken Scott is around still - and had all his cognitive marbles etc - to undertake this Ziggy project ... and then ... at 41:35 Ken himself says something alone lines of: David [Bowie] told him that if ever there were further work done on his material, it should be done by people involved in the first place. Totally get this - the lending/blending of history and authenticity in to new productions. Without first hand witnesses, surely any creation would be that much drier - indeed lacking in "soul".

Trivia: I remember - being aware of Leslie Crowther from "Crackerjack" on UK Childrens' TV - all the teenage chatter in the late 1970s about how Leslie disapproved of his daughter, Caroline, hooking up with Phil Lynott. I guess in those days parents were generally more conservative - and their disapproval could be a little frightening. Sadly Phil Lynott was yet another (in Rock 'n' Roll history) who went the way of early death - at 36 from addiction after his marriage to Caroline, broke down. Ironic in that Crowther, like his own father, was an alcoholic. Having stopped drinking 7 years earlier, Crowther suffered brain injury crashing his Rolls Royce - 4 years before his own death.

Barely touching on the trials and tribulations of Ray Charles - nice (if it may be put that way) amalgam of "humanity" in this post!

11 minutes ago, Iving said:

Watched the whole Ken Scott & Emre Ramazanoglu video. Thanks for posting. Most engaging, educational, informative. I can see why you recommended it as suitable viewing for all.

 

I was just thinking about a synoptic thought/remark - whilst struck that it is fortunate for Atmos listeners that Ken Scott is around still - and had all his cognitive marbles etc - to undertake this Ziggy project ... and then ... at 41:35 Ken himself says something alone lines of: David [Bowie] told him that if ever there were further work done on his material, it should be done by people involved in the first place. Totally get this - the lending/blending of history and authenticity in to new productions. Without first hand witnesses, surely any creation would be that much drier - indeed lacking in "soul".

 

Trivia: I remember - being aware of Leslie Crowther from "Crackerjack" on UK Childrens' TV - all the teenage chatter in the late 1970s about how Leslie disapproved of his daughter, Caroline, hooking up with Phil Lynott. I guess in those days parents were generally more conservative - and their disapproval could be a little frightening. Sadly Phil Lynott was yet another (in Rock 'n' Roll history) who went the way of early death - at 36 from addiction after his marriage to Caroline, broke down. Ironic in that Crowther, like his own father, was an alcoholic. Having stopped drinking 7 years earlier, Crowther suffered brain injury crashing his Rolls Royce - 4 years before his own death.

 

Nice (if it may be put that way) amalgam of "humanity" in this post!

I'm happy you liked the video. I usually lose interest within a couple minutes, but this one grabbed me for the entire time. The comment about Bowie and further work needing to be done by someone who was around for the original production, also caught my attention. At first blush, I was totally onboard with it and thought, "yeah, that's right!" However, there are more needs and wants to be met than just that of those who want perfect lineage and continuity. In my perfect world, there could be two or more mixes. One by those originally involved and one or more by those a bit further from the inside circle, with a fresh look at it. 

I respect Bowie's wishes, if those were truly his wishes. It's his art after all. Or wait, is it the art of the company for which he worked? I error on the side of the artist :~)

55 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

I'm happy you liked the video. I usually lose interest within a couple minutes, but this one grabbed me for the entire time. The comment about Bowie and further work needing to be done by someone who was around for the original production, also caught my attention. At first blush, I was totally onboard with it and thought, "yeah, that's right!" However, there are more needs and wants to be met than just that of those who want perfect lineage and continuity. In my perfect world, there could be two or more mixes. One by those originally involved and one or more by those a bit further from the inside circle, with a fresh look at it. 

 

I respect Bowie's wishes, if those were truly his wishes. It's his art after all. Or wait, is it the art of the company for which he worked? I error on the side of the artist :~)

I guess in the end the market will care about what it cares about - and get what it wants (as long as there are engineers and producers available to step up).

Most people seem to have little or no trouble recognising that Bowie was the driver and team leader behind everything that emanated from him. Having re-viewed the video at 41:35, Ken says David Bowie said "has to be" (original person/people involved in future work). Sounds peremptory from the Horse's Mouth - but also a bit He Said She Said. It was also interesting and possibly relevant how Ken talked about the David Bowie Estate. Plenty of people think that Bowie mistreated the Spiders including recompense. I wonder if the Estate is similarly "rigorous". I know people who adore Bowie - I'm not one of them. But I'm unashamedly ardent about Mick Ronson as an Artist/Guitarist.

Studio version of "The Width Of A Circle" is on the Album 'The Man Who Sold The World'. This Live recording was afaik not long before Spiders' last performance 1973 (controversial as Bowie "sacked" them on stage):

Also here's "Five Years" from BBC 'Old Grey Whistle Test' 1972 - Mick Ronson on piano this time.

More and more lossless Atmos music s coming down the tracks.

This is starting to feel like a revolution, not just evolution!