The Computer Audiophile Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Thanks @DuckToller for the review and comparisons. I'm a sucker for Mazzy Star and had no clue David Roback started his first band here at Carlton College in Minnesota. Thanks for the added details. DuckToller 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
matthias Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 @DuckToller Very nice review, thank you. Can you please comment on how the Soncoz and the Allo Revolution compare to your Gieseler Klein DAC? Matt "I want to know why the musicians are on stage, not where". (John Farlowe) Link to comment
DuckToller Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 Thanks for the kind words, Matt!! First, you may be aware of it, the Revolution & the Soncoz share the same ESS DAC chip, while the Klein does use an older AKM generation. The Klein in general does everything the Soncoz can do except of SPDIF troughput and without volume control & balanced output. You can drive amplifier direct with it but it has no mobile use case. If you feel the need for a DAC in the car, the Soncoz would work with its low power demands. Due to the analog volume control you CD an drive your cans as well directly from the DAC's output! Soundwise, I feel that the Klein lacks a bit of clarity, detail and soundstage compared to the LA-QXD1 when fed by Toslink. The Klein however is more mininalistic in its build and functionality. AFAIK, the Klein series has evolved during the last years, both in features and use of DAC chips. The Revolution, as noted in this review, is low on options and highly special on sq: very low noisefloor, detailed and musical in a way I haven't encountered at that price level below 300$. More findings will be published in part 2 of the Revolution review. On USB it is subjectively at least on par with the iFi and distinctively better than the Klein. matthias 1 Link to comment
Rexp Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 You always upsample? As I don't, I guess this review is not for me? Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, Rexp said: You always upsample? As I don't, I guess this review is not for me? You’re throwing out all the information in the review because you listen a little differently? Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Rexp Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 51 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: You’re throwing out all the information in the review because you listen a little differently? I enjoyed the review up to point when it was mentioned upsampling was used, then stopped reading. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, Rexp said: I enjoyed the review up to point when it was mentioned upsampling was used, then stopped reading. So you just prefer the upsampling inside your DAC as opposed to upsampling prior to the DAC? Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Rexp Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Just now, The Computer Audiophile said: So you just prefer the upsampling inside your DAC as opposed to upsampling prior to the DAC? Yup Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, Rexp said: Yup No worries. Just strange that you have to call it out under a review. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Rexp Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: No worries. Just strange that you have to call it out under a review. Point missed. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rexp said: Point missed. Yeah, me too I guess. Not a big deal. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post firedog Posted December 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2020 It's a good time for audiophiles. There are multiple very good DACs out there in the $200-$1000 range. As DACs only (not preamps), I think many of them challenge more expensive units. In other words, if you don't need all the features and/or beautiful casework/knobs you can get something for a few hundred that probably demands an expenditure in the $2K-$3K range before you can beat it in any meaningful way. And in some cases maybe not even then. The quality of dollar output for a quality of DAC is a small fraction of what it was not so long ago. bluesman and DuckToller 1 1 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protectors +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Protection>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three BXT (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Edifer M1380 system. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
blue2 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Good review. IMHO comparisons are more important than eulogies in this context. The detailed playlist is excellent. Could be an article itself if you have more recommendations and time to write them up :-) DuckToller 1 🎸🎶🏔️🐺 Link to comment
DuckToller Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 hours ago, blue2 said: The detailed playlist is excellent. Could be an article itself if you have more recommendations and time to write them up :-) Mille merci @blue2 you seem to be a music lover with some taste not too far away from mine. This is lovely news, as I feel the aquired preferences in music&artists are often very individual and the crossover point of personal tastes remains with some audiophile classics you can hear a dozen at audio shows. Here is a list of my reviews, where you'll find playlists in all but the two Purifi articles. Usually I have linked the Qobuz stream - if available - to them. I may give some consideration about more music for my blog I've started recently, however there are a couple of reviews (with playlists!) I have to finish first. Stay safe & sound Tom from France blue2 1 Link to comment
audiobomber Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 LA-QXD1, what a stupid, unmemorable name. The article says Magnius in a couple of places, should be Modius. The Magnius is an amp, not a DAC. Too bad the sonic comparison to the Modius didn't materialize, would have been interesting. Maybe later? Main System: QNAP TS-451+ > Silent Angel Bonn N8 > Sonore opticalModule Deluxe v2 > Corning SMF with Finisar FTLF1318P3BTL SFPs > Uptone EtherREGEN > exaSound PlayPoint and e32 Mk-II DAC > Meitner MTR-101 Plus monoblocks > Bamberg S5-MTM sealed standmount speakers. Crown XLi 1500 powering AV123 Rocket UFW10 stereo subwoofers. Upgraded power on all switches, renderer and DAC. Furutech and Audio Sensibility ethernet cables, Cardas Neutral Ref analogue cables. iFi Audio AC iPurifer, iFi Supanova, Furman PF-15i & PST-8, power conditioners. Link to comment
DuckToller Posted December 6, 2020 Author Share Posted December 6, 2020 11 hours ago, audiobomber said: The article says Magnius in a couple of places, should be Modius. The Magnius is an amp, not a DAC. Salut AB, thank you for reading the article with your razor sharp eagle eyes ;-). I was aware about the mix up between Modi, Modius and Magnius in the early versions, but somehow these two you found have escaped into the final version. 11 hours ago, audiobomber said: LA-QXD1, what a stupid, unmemorable name. I typed it a couple of times, it is easier than you might think. :-) And far better than i. E. the name MR-2 that Toyota used to slimline/simplyfy here in France to MR, as the full abbreviation somehow sounded like an undesired quality statement for that sports car. Cheers, Tom audiobomber 1 Link to comment
bluesman Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Better sound, better value, more fun every year. With so many new pieces so often, and the benefits at least a few bring to us all, it doesn’t seem so important any more that they’re built to last 30 years. I still love the way my 50 year old stuff looks, feels, and sounds. But being able to upgrade SQ at will without guilt at so little cost has helped me learn to live with plastic and a higher infant failure rate. And, as you point out, many problems are now fixed or overcome by download. Thanks for a great review. I can’t wait to see what cool new things 2021 brings us! DuckToller 1 Link to comment
slobry Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 "Ben: (When) Setting Volume to MAX (->Pure DAC mode), Led lights will change but have no actual effect." (Filter selection) Hi, I have had this DAC for a while and recently remembered it has filters. I have updated the firmware to always start at max volume when plugged in (Pure DAC mode), will the device always remember what filter i selected everytime i plug it in? Not sure what he meant by that statement Link to comment
DuckToller Posted August 29 Author Share Posted August 29 I understood it that way, that in pure DAC mode a standard filter is set. Therefore light signals have no effect, as no filter is changed. I could be wrong, though. 😉 slobry 1 Link to comment
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