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Electrical Isolation: Fiber Media Converter vs Copper RJ-45 Transceiver Modules


zelbir

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About a two years ago I started on a journey of switching over my LAN almost entirely to fiber.  Part of the mix are FMCs (e.g. TP Link MC220L with LPS), a hub entirely of SFP+ ports that sits right after my router, and some legacy copper hardware.  I am very happy with the performance and will stay with fiber until something better comes along.  Read: for the foreseeable future.

 

As part of research leading to a cleaning up/reconfiguring my LAN, I have learned more about RJ-45 transceiver modules (e.g Cisco SFP-10G-T-S Compatible 10GBASE-T SFP+ Copper RJ-45 30m Transceiver Module).  I know these modules will work with my equipment...and it would offer opportunity to eliminate most/all of the FMCs, have fewer power supplies,  and plug directly into my SFP+ ported hub.  

 

Question: Do these transceiver modules offer more, less, or equivalent electrical isolation relative to fiber media converters?  Whatever your answer is...why is that the answer?

 

I *suspect* its equivalent because the copper/fiber transition is merely happening within the transceiver module instead of the FMC.  But, that is speculation on my part...and have not found anything in my research (so far) that answers the question.

 

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On 6/1/2019 at 1:08 PM, zelbir said:

Question: Do these transceiver modules offer more, less, or equivalent electrical isolation relative to fiber media converters?  Whatever your answer is...why is that the answer?

I *suspect* its equivalent because the copper/fiber transition is merely happening within the transceiver module instead of the FMC.  But, that is speculation on my part...and have not found anything in my research (so far) that answers the question.

 

Not recommended for audio, according to @Superdad:

 

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"What I wrote was correct about RJ45 SFP modules containing an Ethernet PHY, tiny cheap clock, and cheap voltage regs. (Avoid those!)"

 

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On 6/1/2019 at 10:08 AM, zelbir said:

I *suspect* its equivalent because the copper/fiber transition is merely happening within the transceiver module instead of the FMC.


There are not any optical fiber elements contained in the type of RJ45 SFP transceiver module you linked to.  Those simply take the 1000Base-X (fiber mode) SGMII differential pairs—at the back of the SFP cage coming from the switch chip—and run them through a PHY chip to produce the UTP for the transformers and RJ45 jack. But since the signal from the cage does not include a clock and all PHYs require one, those modules also have to have a 25MHz clock—as well as multiple voltage regulators to take the 3.3V feed and supply other voltages to the PHY and clock (usually just a cheap crystal).  It is all far from ideal to have all that stuff crammed into an SFP form factor.  And while Finisar is a quality brand, there are still a lot of compromises to build at low cost.

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