nxrm Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Please help me find my way out of this conundrum: I want to drive a ~ 90db SPL/w/m center channel speaker either of four ways: 1.) A ~ 10 watt mono tube amp. Budget ~ $2.7K From the DAC output feeding a LOW power tube amp. Driving the center speaker even with any of these lesser 300B SET mono blocks? https://www.google.com/search?q=300b+mono+set+amplifier+between+$1,000+and+$3,500&udm=28&shoprs=CAESFhIUCQAAAABlzc1BEQAAAGC4E-pBGAEYBSoXMzAwYiBtb25vIHNldCBhbXBsaWZpZXIyMQgFEg8kMSwwMDAgLSAkMyw1MDAYAiIWEhQJAAAAAGXNzUERAAAAYLgT6kEYASoCGAFYprMgYAI&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj569e1l7mHAxVpEVkFHSYsCDkQ268JKAJ6BAgQEB8&biw=1066&bih=438&dpr=1.2 2.) The other idea was a 45 tube amp, which I’ve heard can rival the sound of 300B SETs, but I can’t find any around. Any suggested 45 mono amp under $2.5K? But do they run much hotter and/or have higher power draw than a cheap 300B mono block? 3.) My stock First Watt F4 amp in balanced mono mode. https://www.firstwatt.com/product/f4/ https://www.firstwatt.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/prod_f4_man.pdf As the F4 as a mono block does 100 watts, my room's only ~ 2800 cu ft and I'd be only 13 ft away how much input signal voltage could the F4 really need, even to sound it's best under these conditions? That's why I wanted to know if someone has ever put a balanced passive line stage between the F4 and a balanced output source-like a multichannel DAC, which will have a ~ 4.6V output. https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5e15d4fba20f9d0f914ce7aa/t/5ecbdb96fd31365e4fd5daf5/1590418329103/convert-8-chop-shop.pdf Or this DAC card for the Merging Hapi DAC offering much higher output voltage? https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1806156-REG/merging_technologies_700341_da8_output_card_up.html Would there any loss in sound quality using a passive line stage like these, assuming their balanced stereo passive outputs could be bridged to feed the F4 in balanced mono mode? https://khozmo.com/product-category/preamplifiers/ 4.) However, as many F4 users have said, as it’s quite the chameleon and will essentially sound much like whatever’s feeding it. Thus, the F4 in balanced mono mode fed from a fully balanced tube line stage? Budget ~ $2500. I would think this last option might be best as I would just need the best sounding tube line stage I can afford. But which for awesome sound stage size, spot on imaging, holographic mids and airy highs? Going kind of nuts with this. Please share ideas. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 I can only comment on what I have experience with. I drive my center channel with a Mytek Brooklyn Amp+. I feed the amp with the Merging DA8P card, and love the combo. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
serko70 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 I removed the center speaker completely and now have the highest and cleanest dialogues to date with my system. I have a near perfect phantom center with my fronts. OCA https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLePp5EV2RR5_Xo7rZnnpnQ Link to comment
nxrm Posted July 23 Author Share Posted July 23 On 7/22/2024 at 10:24 AM, serko70 said: I removed the center speaker completely and now have the highest and cleanest dialogues to date with my system. I have a near perfect phantom center with my fronts. Curious about your fronts. Are they large open baffles-or perhaps more likely large three way or two way horns? That might explain why your phantom is large, especially for movie dialogue, and also on axis with your ears. Link to comment
nxrm Posted July 23 Author Share Posted July 23 On 7/21/2024 at 9:31 PM, The Computer Audiophile said: I can only comment on what I have experience with. I drive my center channel with a Mytek Brooklyn Amp+. I feed the amp with the Merging DA8P card, and love the combo. Thanks; at least I've finally narrowed my DAC choice down to between that card in the Hapi chassis and the Dangerous Music Convert-8. The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to comment
serko70 Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 10 hours ago, nxrm said: Curious about your fronts. Are they large open baffles-or perhaps more likely large three way or two way horns? That might explain why your phantom is large, especially for movie dialogue, and also on axis with your ears. They are symetrically and carefully placed 3-way floor standers. OCA https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLePp5EV2RR5_Xo7rZnnpnQ Link to comment
nxrm Posted July 24 Author Share Posted July 24 Lots of room/speaker/sub correcting info. Will definitely spend time there. Link to comment
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