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Please help me find my way out of this conundrum:

I want to drive a ~ 90db SPL/w/m center channel speaker either of four ways:

1.)    A ~ 10 watt mono tube amp. Budget ~ $2.7K

 

From the DAC output feeding a LOW power tube amp. Driving the center speaker even with any of these lesser 300B SET mono blocks?

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=300b+mono+set+amplifier+between+$1,000+and+$3,500&udm=28&shoprs=CAESFhIUCQAAAABlzc1BEQAAAGC4E-pBGAEYBSoXMzAwYiBtb25vIHNldCBhbXBsaWZpZXIyMQgFEg8kMSwwMDAgLSAkMyw1MDAYAiIWEhQJAAAAAGXNzUERAAAAYLgT6kEYASoCGAFYprMgYAI&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj569e1l7mHAxVpEVkFHSYsCDkQ268JKAJ6BAgQEB8&biw=1066&bih=438&dpr=1.2

 

2.)   The other idea was a 45 tube amp, which I’ve heard can rival the sound of 300B SETs, but I can’t find any around.

Any suggested 45 mono amp under $2.5K? But do they run much hotter and/or have higher power draw than a cheap 300B mono block?

 

3.)   My stock First Watt F4 amp in balanced mono mode. https://www.firstwatt.com/product/f4/

https://www.firstwatt.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/prod_f4_man.pdf

 

As the F4 as a mono block does 100 watts, my room's only ~ 2800 cu ft and I'd be only 13 ft away how much input signal voltage could the F4 really need, even to sound it's best under these conditions? That's why I wanted to know if someone has ever put a balanced passive line stage between the F4 and a balanced output source-like a multichannel DAC, which will have a ~ 4.6V output.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5e15d4fba20f9d0f914ce7aa/t/5ecbdb96fd31365e4fd5daf5/1590418329103/convert-8-chop-shop.pdf

 

 Or this DAC card for the Merging Hapi DAC offering much higher output voltage?

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1806156-REG/merging_technologies_700341_da8_output_card_up.html

 

Would there any loss in sound quality using a passive line stage like these, assuming their balanced stereo passive outputs could be bridged to feed the F4 in balanced mono mode?  https://khozmo.com/product-category/preamplifiers/

 

4.)   However, as many F4 users have said, as it’s quite the chameleon and will essentially sound much like whatever’s feeding it. Thus, the F4 in balanced mono mode fed from a fully balanced tube line stage? Budget ~ $2500. I would think this last option might be best as I would just need the best sounding tube line stage I can afford. But which for awesome sound stage size, spot on imaging, holographic mids and airy highs?

 

 Going kind of nuts with this. Please share ideas.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 7/22/2024 at 10:24 AM, serko70 said:

I removed the center speaker completely and now have the highest and cleanest dialogues to date with my system. I have a near perfect phantom center with my fronts.

 Curious about your fronts. Are they large open baffles-or perhaps more likely large three way or two way horns? That might explain why your phantom is large, especially for movie dialogue, and also on axis with your ears.

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On 7/21/2024 at 9:31 PM, The Computer Audiophile said:

I can only comment on what I have experience with. I drive my center channel with a Mytek Brooklyn Amp+. I feed the amp with the Merging DA8P card, and love the combo. 

Thanks; at least I've finally narrowed my DAC choice down to between that card in the Hapi chassis and the Dangerous Music Convert-8.

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